Ep. 111 Dawn Sueoka

This episode features a new twist in our recording format. Not only are we featuring the amazing artist and author Dawn Sueoka, including her so-interesting interactive lit and musical choices, but as we are recording this show in partnership with our friends at Central Pacific Time (as usual <3), we are also working with Art World Escape for the first time to record in front of a live audience! Thank you to our friend Sadie at the Orange Juice Public Library for inviting us to record this episode in their space. Enjoy, and keep an eye out on our social medias (FB&IG @itslitwithphdj) for information about upcoming live-recording events!


Dawn Sueoka is a poet and an archivist who grew up in Central Oʻahu and on Kauaʻi. Her chapbook, Little Uglies, was published by Bloof Books in 2014. Her poetry-adjacent work is published by the Orange Juice Public Library, a sometimes imaginary network of libraries and humans. Presently, she’s curious about chance, procedural generation, and interactive fiction. You can connect with Dawn on her website at https://lavieenmeow.blog/.


  1. Grace Jones, “Walking in the Rain”
  2. LIT: 2 paths through Afraid of Money
  3. Ambrosia, “Biggest Part of Me”
  4. Marianne Faithfull, “Broken English”
  5. LIT: first 2 “chapters” of REALLY, IF / REALLY, ALWAYS
  6. Gossip, “Four Letter Word”
  7. Bat for Lashes, “Kids in the Dark”
  8. LIT: First “chapter” of work in progress (So Are the Days)
  9. FKA twigs, “home with you”
  10. Bryan Ferry’s “Don’t Stop the Dance”


We sometimes mention stuff in passing on the show. Here are some notes from this episode:

  • When discussing unauthorized ways of playing games, Dawn mentions an RPG that features an anti-war protest within a war game where an artist went into America’s Army (a game funded by the army and used for recruitment) and read the names of US military personnel who had been killed in the Iraq war. Here’s an article about it.
  • The story from Creative Nonfiction that PhDJ refers to regarding a player of a post-apocalyptic game who goes rogue is “Almost Home” by Sarah Einstein. The game Epstein goes rogue in is called Fallout 76.
  • The discussion around low-custody and high-custody texts, as per Robert Boswell’s definition, centers on the quote: “The danger the low custody author faces is reader bewilderment (recall the first time you ever read Chekhov), while the high custody author risks over-controlling a narrative to the point that the reader feels excluded or even redundant” from an interview with Boswell that is reproduced here.
  • Carmen Maria Machado’s In the Dream House includes the choose-your-own-adventure form that, in this instance, goes wrong and painfully demonstrates the difficulty of escaping from abusive relationships.


To come! This show is being recorded on Feb 2; release date Feb 8, 2020.

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